Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
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Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
Here is how to proceed to give a hand in the ODS TCN listing.
We want to provide a complete list of all relevant navigation data for all airstrips and airbase in ODS.
For that we need:
- Name of airbase
- Tcn Channel and band
- Tcn Range
- RNW orientations
- Checking tiles
- F4 Runway elevation
- Runway Lat/Long coordinates
What you need:
- Latest ODS version installed
- Latest Stations.dat http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/sta ... 270802.zip
Rename to stations.dat and copy in the Campaign\DesStrom folder
- Latest kneemap with Rings http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/kne ... _range.gif
Right click and save on your HD. Rename kneemap.gif and copy the file in your Campaign\DesStrom folder
A good habit is to make changes to F4 files ONLY when KOREA is selected. Copy the files, and only then switch to ODS
How to proceed:
- Lat and Long data.
To have them is pretty simple. Make a TE starting from one base and makes the flight plan go precisely over each airbase/airstrip in the country. Then once in the cockpit browse through all the steerpoints and write down the DED lat and long data. Don't forget the name of the airbase.
Make sure you zoom in precisely over each airbase to ensure that the waypoint is right over the base.
- F4 elev data
This one is funny - but could certainly be given by terrainview. Still I like to do it.
From the same Te you previously created, fly to each airbase.
Try to align the runway
Select barometric altitude to be displayed in the hud
When passing over the runway - write down the radar altimeter altitude and substract its value from the altimeter in the HUD
You have the field elevation
You can also dismiss the radar alt but then you may scratch the belly of the F16
- Radials and DME.
For the airfield/airstrips having no Tacan collocated, I need to have one reference point. That means having a radial from another Tacan station and a DME for the distance. That way, I have one direction and a distance, quite enough for positionning.
When over the runway (not too low this time) pick a powerfull station around. Center the CDI on the HSI in FROM and write down the radial value. (I think F4 works better with FROM values) Write also the DME value from the HSI.
Sometime, An airbase or airstrip is not in range of any TCN station. In that case, we have two possibilities:
- Range and bearing from bullseye
- Use the HSI in NAV mode and select an airbase around preferably equipped with a powerfull TCN station (even not in range)
Center the CDI in FROM and write down the radial and DME.
Even if the Tacan is out of range this way can help reaching that particular spot
RD
We want to provide a complete list of all relevant navigation data for all airstrips and airbase in ODS.
For that we need:
- Name of airbase
- Tcn Channel and band
- Tcn Range
- RNW orientations
- Checking tiles
- F4 Runway elevation
- Runway Lat/Long coordinates
What you need:
- Latest ODS version installed
- Latest Stations.dat http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/sta ... 270802.zip
Rename to stations.dat and copy in the Campaign\DesStrom folder
- Latest kneemap with Rings http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/kne ... _range.gif
Right click and save on your HD. Rename kneemap.gif and copy the file in your Campaign\DesStrom folder
A good habit is to make changes to F4 files ONLY when KOREA is selected. Copy the files, and only then switch to ODS
How to proceed:
- Lat and Long data.
To have them is pretty simple. Make a TE starting from one base and makes the flight plan go precisely over each airbase/airstrip in the country. Then once in the cockpit browse through all the steerpoints and write down the DED lat and long data. Don't forget the name of the airbase.
Make sure you zoom in precisely over each airbase to ensure that the waypoint is right over the base.
- F4 elev data
This one is funny - but could certainly be given by terrainview. Still I like to do it.
From the same Te you previously created, fly to each airbase.
Try to align the runway
Select barometric altitude to be displayed in the hud
When passing over the runway - write down the radar altimeter altitude and substract its value from the altimeter in the HUD
You have the field elevation
You can also dismiss the radar alt but then you may scratch the belly of the F16
- Radials and DME.
For the airfield/airstrips having no Tacan collocated, I need to have one reference point. That means having a radial from another Tacan station and a DME for the distance. That way, I have one direction and a distance, quite enough for positionning.
When over the runway (not too low this time) pick a powerfull station around. Center the CDI on the HSI in FROM and write down the radial value. (I think F4 works better with FROM values) Write also the DME value from the HSI.
Sometime, An airbase or airstrip is not in range of any TCN station. In that case, we have two possibilities:
- Range and bearing from bullseye
- Use the HSI in NAV mode and select an airbase around preferably equipped with a powerfull TCN station (even not in range)
Center the CDI in FROM and write down the radial and DME.
Even if the Tacan is out of range this way can help reaching that particular spot
RD
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
Still in, All right - UPDATED - 09-16-02 19:16GMT
Ideally we want to assign one country to one volonteer.
I'll provide to each volonteer a blank template to fill up.
T-Rex started working on the NW corner and I started on the SE corner.
On my side, Saudi arabia, Kuwait and Southern Irak is done.
T-Rex, maybe you can post what you already covered.
The country that needs to be covered are:
Saudi Arabia (complete)
Iran => SWAMPY (airbase)
Irak => FB (airbases) FREMMED (airstrips)
Kuwait (complete)
Egypt => ALICATT
Israel => GHARPER1
Jordan => FALCON1
Lebanon => KRAIG MITCHELL
Syria => DRYLOUVRE
Cyprus => KRAIG MITCHELL
Turkey => (in progress - TRex)
Azerbaidjan (complete)
Armenia (complete)
Turkmenistan (complete)
Barhain (complete)
UAE (complete)
Qatar (complete)
Post your choices
RD
Ideally we want to assign one country to one volonteer.
I'll provide to each volonteer a blank template to fill up.
T-Rex started working on the NW corner and I started on the SE corner.
On my side, Saudi arabia, Kuwait and Southern Irak is done.
T-Rex, maybe you can post what you already covered.
The country that needs to be covered are:
Saudi Arabia (complete)
Iran => SWAMPY (airbase)
Irak => FB (airbases) FREMMED (airstrips)
Kuwait (complete)
Egypt => ALICATT
Israel => GHARPER1
Jordan => FALCON1
Lebanon => KRAIG MITCHELL
Syria => DRYLOUVRE
Cyprus => KRAIG MITCHELL
Turkey => (in progress - TRex)
Azerbaidjan (complete)
Armenia (complete)
Turkmenistan (complete)
Barhain (complete)
UAE (complete)
Qatar (complete)
Post your choices
RD
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
Here is a sample of a country list that needs to be filled.
http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/TCN_ODS_Iran.zip
And here is a link to an almost completed sheet so that you can see the required format: http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/TCN ... pleted.zip
RD
http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/TCN_ODS_Iran.zip
And here is a link to an almost completed sheet so that you can see the required format: http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/ODS/TCN ... pleted.zip
RD
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
Hi Red Dog,
I give Egypt a going over for you, it will be nice to be able to repay for all the work you guys have been doing for us all.
Alicatt
oh email addy is aipaul@nildram.co.uk
I give Egypt a going over for you, it will be nice to be able to repay for all the work you guys have been doing for us all.
Alicatt
oh email addy is aipaul@nildram.co.uk
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
I've done Turkmenstan - all 3 bases.
First, when building the TE, I take off from one base and make sure there are 2-4 other "primary" bases that I want the info for. Then, I place steerpoints over 2 "secondary" airbases. I do this if there are no TACAN airbases in range of those I'm flying to. Also, make sure you've either checked unlimited fuel or added enough fuel tanks.
So, I start the TE. While sitting on the runway (ignoring the ATC) I write down the long/lat of the first airbase. I hit ctrl-z [release] l [lower case L] to get the F4 coordinates. The "Z" axis number (without the minus) is the actualy altitude. Then, if in TACAN range, I get the bearings to the other tacan stations. If no TACANs are in range, I make the secondary waypoints current, then get radial and distance to them.
Then I take off, fly to the next airbase, land (hopefully) and get the info again.
Good idea to post all this stuff here, RD!
First, when building the TE, I take off from one base and make sure there are 2-4 other "primary" bases that I want the info for. Then, I place steerpoints over 2 "secondary" airbases. I do this if there are no TACAN airbases in range of those I'm flying to. Also, make sure you've either checked unlimited fuel or added enough fuel tanks.
So, I start the TE. While sitting on the runway (ignoring the ATC) I write down the long/lat of the first airbase. I hit ctrl-z [release] l [lower case L] to get the F4 coordinates. The "Z" axis number (without the minus) is the actualy altitude. Then, if in TACAN range, I get the bearings to the other tacan stations. If no TACANs are in range, I make the secondary waypoints current, then get radial and distance to them.
Then I take off, fly to the next airbase, land (hopefully) and get the info again.
Good idea to post all this stuff here, RD!
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
Hi,
Ok, I'll volunteer for Syria
Dry
Ok, I'll volunteer for Syria
Dry
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
quote:Originally posted by Alicatt:
Hi Red Dog,
I give Egypt a going over for you, it will be nice to be able to repay for all the work you guys have been doing for us all.
Alicatt
oh email addy is aipaul@nildram.co.uk
Roger, thanks for the help. I'll send you the Egypt sheet. Any question you have, don't hesitate to ask
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Great. I'll send a-the Syrian sheet as soon as I have your mail. Or shoot one to olivier.beaumont(at)chello.bequote:Originally posted by Drylouvre:
Hi,
Ok, I'll volunteer for Syria
Dry
Thanks for the help
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
BTW, RD - I'm still in for Turkey. I've started the far east and will work my way west.
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
howdy guys...
i'm from Turkey and wanna help if my assistance is needed in any particular area...
laterz
i'm from Turkey and wanna help if my assistance is needed in any particular area...
laterz
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Roger that, list updatedquote:Originally posted by T_Rex:
BTW, RD - I'm still in for Turkey. I've started the far east and will work my way west.
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Welcome buddyquote:Originally posted by mariacchi:
howdy guys...
i'm from Turkey and wanna help if my assistance is needed in any particular area...
laterz
Pick a country above
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
I'll help. can't promise I'll get it done before the weekend, but send me whatever you like, if that's an acceptable time frame.
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Hi, I posted on Frugals..I am in for Jordan...i am not sure ho long it will take for me to complete (school), but i will get it done as soon as possible. Aything else i need to know?
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Hi
I posted on frugals and got 1 email from TRex which I just responded to. and now I've found this. put me down for Israel, or whatever's left.
thanks
greyfish@speakeasy.net
gharper1@speakeasy.net
(either works)
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I posted on frugals and got 1 email from TRex which I just responded to. and now I've found this. put me down for Israel, or whatever's left.
thanks
greyfish@speakeasy.net
gharper1@speakeasy.net
(either works)
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No Problem, I propose you get in touch with TRex and arrange something with him. I know he started on the east side. Maybe you can make the west part and coordinate with him.quote:Originally posted by mariacchi:
how bout Turkey but i see it's assigned to TRex...
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Welcome and thanks. You're in for Jordan.quote:Originally posted by falcon1:
Hi, I posted on Frugals..I am in for Jordan...i am not sure ho long it will take for me to complete (school), but i will get it done as soon as possible. Aything else i need to know?
Check FW PM, I need your email address or send at mine:
olivier.beaumont(at) chello.be
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Thanks buddy, You're in for Israel.quote:Originally posted by gharper1:
Hi
I posted on frugals and got 1 email from TRex which I just responded to. and now I've found this. put me down for Israel, or whatever's left.
thanks
greyfish@speakeasy.net
gharper1@speakeasy.net
(either works)
g
Check FW PM, I need your email address or send at mine:
olivier.beaumont(at) chello.be
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
With the volonteers from FW, we should have all countries covered. Thanks for all the help, we appreciate that.
I'll update the list above according to confirmations.
If you volonteerd but have no news from TRex or me, please get in touch
If you still want to volonteer; please do so, after ODS, we need to update Balkan, Afghanistan, Europe,....
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I'll update the list above according to confirmations.
If you volonteerd but have no news from TRex or me, please get in touch
If you still want to volonteer; please do so, after ODS, we need to update Balkan, Afghanistan, Europe,....
Cheers
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@ red dog
got your PM
sent a reply and tried sending you an email.
my address is gharper1@speakeasy.net, or greyfish@speakeasy.net
thanks
g
got your PM
sent a reply and tried sending you an email.
my address is gharper1@speakeasy.net, or greyfish@speakeasy.net
thanks
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My e-mail is druckerj10@hotmail.com ... I have yet to get the FW PM b/c at the moment it seems that the forums are down..or at least the F4 one is. I will check it as soon as i can.quote: Thanks buddy, You're in for Israel.
Check FW PM, I need your email address or send at mine:
olivier.beaumont(at) chello.be
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Email received. The file is on your wayquote:Originally posted by gharper1:
@ red dog
got your PM
sent a reply and tried sending you an email.
my address is gharper1@speakeasy.net, or greyfish@speakeasy.net
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Sending the Jordan sheet nowquote:Originally posted by falcon1:
My e-mail is druckerj10@hotmail.com ... I have yet to get the FW PM b/c at the moment it seems that the forums are down..or at least the F4 one is. I will check it as soon as i can.
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Thanks. I didnt get it yet (6:00 EST), but i will check back soon. Also, what format is this sheet in? I am afraid that i dont have Excel (going to upgrade computer soon). Looking forward to helping!quote:Originally posted by Red Dog:
Sending the Jordan sheet now
RD
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yep, it's Excell.
What format can you read?
RD
What format can you read?
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I have MS Word, and MS Works. I never recieved the other sheet you sent me earlier. Hope that hotmail isnt going and messing up on me agian
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haven't received anything here either. looks like its been several hours.
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That's weird.
I sent both sheets at 22:00 GMT yesterday night. I'll resend the sheets this afternoon.
Or you can contact me via ICQ (69454726), we can transfer the file that way too.
RD
I sent both sheets at 22:00 GMT yesterday night. I'll resend the sheets this afternoon.
Or you can contact me via ICQ (69454726), we can transfer the file that way too.
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That sounds good! I've started in the far Northeast - by Yerevan. I'll work my way west. However, depending on how fast you work, you could easily catch me!quote:Originally posted by mariacchi:
howdy guys...
i'm from Turkey and wanna help if my assistance is needed in any particular area...
laterz
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looks like Lebanon is still not taken. send your sheet to horrigmo@math.uio.no and I'll do it.
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just checking in. got Israel done. hope to get a chance to type it up and send it in sometime today or tomorrow (having HDD issues).
also FYI, 4 of the 5 Tacans in Israel don't work right. It'll be in the report. I'm assuming its a similar thing referenced in the other Tacan related post.
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also FYI, 4 of the 5 Tacans in Israel don't work right. It'll be in the report. I'm assuming its a similar thing referenced in the other Tacan related post.
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Re: Volonteers for ODS Tacan listing
Guys,
I'm going on vacation on Thursday for 10 days (family vacation to Disneyland and Miami). RD- I'll email you what I have before I go. I'm afraid not much of Turkey is there.
Later,
T
I'm going on vacation on Thursday for 10 days (family vacation to Disneyland and Miami). RD- I'll email you what I have before I go. I'm afraid not much of Turkey is there.
Later,
T
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