New 3d toys? XXIII

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by aabhutta » 2003-09-05 19:16:00

:D so you do have an F7PG and a Mirage III model already for F4?, can i get that. Also about the Fc1 if i can get a head start i can probably give another shot at Lodeditor to make it F4 compatable and try out my skill (who know's i might be able to make some thing out of it for the community). My email is aabhutta@yahoo.com

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-06 06:01:00

Max's website here:
http://www.anycities.com/fightertown/flightline.htm

you may contact him directly.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by flanker » 2003-09-07 20:07:00

@ CCC, good work the ekranoplan. Come the ekranoplan with 4 jets in SP4?

Do you know, come the Mirage 5 in SP4?
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-11 21:46:00

Here's one to keep the Tomcats busy. The MPS model is one of the ugliest objects in Falcon (togeter with the Beagle) and it's still untouched. Could'nt take it anymore... :p

Tu-16 pic

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-12 04:32:00

Spike, can't view the pic.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-12 06:16:00

D'oh! I hate to rely on free webspace. This link should work:

Badger - 2nd try

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Tazz » 2003-09-12 09:53:00

Wow excellent. Yes you're right.. The Tu-95 was already "fairly basic looking" but the default MPS Tu-16 is indeed "a box with wings". :) And in the Korean theater, it's quite an important aircraft - it's the only medium bomber available to the Chinese and Korean air forces.

Just one minor question thingie.. ;) Isn't the canopy-angle a bit too steep?

Here are some (well known) images from FAS.ORG:

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BTW: Is this an Egyptian or Iraqi Tu-16?

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BTW: that MiG-21 on the background of your page - that isn't the SP3 MIG-21 is it? It's absolutely awesome!!! Is it available for download for SP3 somewhere?
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-12 12:35:00

Hi Tazz, thank's for the feedback and the pictures. Constructive critics is always appreciated. I will check on the cockpit-area and report back later.

The background shows the old SP3 model with some tweaks applied. In the meantime i have reworked the SP3 model one more time and the latest version will be part of one of the next patches, canopy-roof included. :p

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-12 14:21:00

Spike- are you working on MPS model? or based on other 3ds model?

i'll send you Alphasim FS98 model ASAP, have a look, their poly layout is excellent for lod structuring. i simply have no interest in TU16..i'd rather go for Blinder or brewer.

[edit]- it seems you already use that model right?

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-12 17:46:00

Right. The Alphasim model has an really exellent layout, conversion took only a few hours.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-12 23:32:00

quote:Originally posted by Spike:
Right. The Alphasim model has an really exellent layout, conversion took only a few hours.
then i suppose you got Alphasim P-3C, F-86, and Tu95?

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-14 13:17:00

Nope, i don't have them yet. Can you send me Alphasims Tu-95 and Il-28? I'd like to take a look at them. There aren't too many people working on bombers, most of them still use MPS models. It would be cool to have a new Bone too. I bet there are tons of B-1b meshes on then net.

Could you please send the Beagle to this adress:

santex-heimtextil@t-online.de

Thank you very much.

Some Fishbed shots

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-14 15:45:00

Spike- could you take more screenshots to showoff DOF features on fishbed?

will send you alphasim files.

BTW, Cold war style here..
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Seifer » 2003-09-14 16:08:00

Is that a BAe Vulcan?
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Tazz » 2003-09-14 22:04:00

It sure looks like that.

CCC what else do you have up your sleeves? ;) Didn't you also model a Victor as well?
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-15 12:42:00

Here's another small progress update on the Badger. I'm now detailing the cockpit and the landing-gear, texture mapping will soon commence.

web page

ccc, the Mig-21 isn't fully animated. It only has DOFs for canopy, TEF, rudder, elevators, gear and doors. I can send it to you, if you like.

Haven't yet managed to add some airbrakes, maybe at an later point.

Edit: Thank's for the Bear, looks good.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-15 13:54:00

@Tazz, there are tons of raw material waiting to be converted. the rest two V are available in nice 3ds foramt. its a matter of time.

@Spike-
be sure to check tu16 nose cone, it looks odd when comparing with real shots.

mig21, i've that lod already..waiting a more DOFed one :D - fully gear retracting/deploying/steering..

su35- cool, that nose section looks GREAT -- don't forget static dischargers on wings!

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Tazz » 2003-09-15 15:04:00

Spike,

That Tu-16 looks absolutely gorgeous, Falcon 4.0 is taking big steps forward once again! :)

Just curious: are you also planning on giving it a "glass nose" like in the above pics? I think CCC is right, the nose needs a little tweaking.. it looks a pit too pointy I think? ;)
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-16 05:44:00

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2003-09-16 06:02:00

nice J-10, ever thought about making an F-2?

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-16 09:46:00

quote:Just curious: are you also planning on giving it a "glass nose" like in the above pics? I think CCC is right, the nose needs a little tweaking.. it looks a pit too pointy I think? ;)[/B]
Yes, im going to model the glassy nose with semi-transparent polygons, just like the cockpit. I haven't worked on the nose yet, that's why it looks so odd.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by ccc » 2003-09-16 14:36:00

quote:Originally posted by Ender Wiggin:
nice J-10, ever thought about making an F-2?
Falconeer from Japan has sent me a detailed F-2 3ds model, along with comparsion 3-view between F16 and F2 for a while. I passed the material to viper master PumpyHead, Apparently he's the guy knowing his model, F-2 can be tweaked from viper lod much easier than a new build.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-16 21:58:00

Have built a new nose for the Tu-16. Looks much better IMO.

New Badger shots here

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2003-09-17 00:03:00

Sweet TU, sweet SU, which one is it?

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Tazz » 2003-09-17 13:09:00

Spike,

That nose looks just great, really great! Wish I could model like that! (I can't even draw a box in 3DS Max.. LOL!).

Now I think if you'd make that cockpit-window-angle a bit steeper, it would be just perfect.If you look at the pics, you see that the Tu-16 has a very "sporty" cockpit-angle ;)

Will it also get a tailgun? It's really a very very good looking model!
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-19 07:23:00

Don't worry, i'll take care of the cockpit angle, as well as the tailgun. Too bad, that we can't animate the turret. :(

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by hrenner » 2003-09-19 12:02:00

Spike, can you check your email?

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Tazz » 2003-09-23 12:15:00

I'm dying to see any new shots of the Tu-16.. that is. if you have any Spike? :)

Is someone already working on a 512x512 skin for this baby?
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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Spike » 2003-09-25 14:18:00

Great page, the close-up shots are really useful. Scale-model pages are always good references, aren't they?
RL is keeping me busy, maybe i can show you some progress this weekend.

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Re: New 3d toys? XXIII

Post by Tazz » 2003-10-09 23:54:00

Spike,

Just curious - did you get to work on the TU-16 some more? It's just such an awesome model now.. what a waiste to blow them out of the skies! :D :D :D :D
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