Any news ??? (ODS OF fixes by Fafa)

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-09 23:58:39

Any news on this project ?

With ODS 0.6 I have a problem on OF 4.5. WHen I leave a mission in the campaign, I've got a black screen and can't come back to the UI. However the process is still remaining active. Any Idea ?

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-10 01:13:32

There is no news for ODS, as there is no news for any other PMC Theater. Last time, well eh, after PMC comeback the theaters were build in cycle, systematically we went through all theaters and released them with proper installer for all Falcon versions (ok dont go into the AF bug, I KNOW).

When the development cycle begins again, ODS is on the early stages on the list but not first... you should see Taiwan or Korea 128 (dunno really) come out first.

In the background I have not edited ODS at all since the v0.6 release. I have just gathered bug reports and feedback.

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-10 11:20:11

I succeeded in adding some little features in ODS 0.6 as you can see.
My question is what files were modified in 0.6 since 0.512. I try to make a little OF update pack with less files as possible and try to resolve a black screen exiting a mission (I suppose it comes from the weather files, because it worked in 4.4.1 and not in OF 4.5)

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-10 12:46:35

87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2007-11-11 15:21:07

Try adding this line to your falconbms.cfg file with notepad or similar;
set g_bDeferedTextureDelete 1

If that doesn help, select sam sentence with value 0

or If that still dont help then unselect all MipMap settings under Graphics/Advanced (that should not be used in the first place!)

or

Try to lower your graphics setting to 16 bit instead of 32 bit - i bet you hardly will notice difference anyway.

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-11 16:08:56

Thanks Striker, the problem was solved by another way.

Now 2 questions :

1/ could someone tell me which files are used for the debriefing you see after completing a TE. In my mod, the debrief window opens and there is no text (blank)...

2/ In creating the TE I got no button for assign and number of teams...seems not to exists since oldest version of ODS (I tried this on a ff3/cobraone version same prob). However in the korea original it exists. What are the files for this, please ?

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-14 16:37:13

Oops I missed couple of posts in this topic (strange). I dont know the answer for the TE questions as I never really done any work in there, TE in my view is boring; we have all the other games doing "TE stuff" so I'll stick with the Dynamic Campaign instead.

So how are the OF fixes coming along Fafa?

I was thinking that while I said that we'll wait for next theater development cycle... it meant that if I have to do all the shit alone, so if you can do some OF fixes, I could try to fix few of the most annoying bugs (like the wrong color palettes on some airbases), implement the AF installer fix and then we would be ready for ODS v0.7 release. I mean there is no reason to specificly wait any development cycles to start if there is people willing to help me. If I'll do this alone I'll do it with my schedule, if there is people to help we move along as files pour in.

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-16 23:31:28

HI SM, I'm on it.

At the moment I update some minor fixes on the OF UI, reworked and added some campaigns on based older, added some local desert skins. This 1st stage is finished for me because I can't go ahead without spending lots of time.

My last update was uploaded today but I need your appreciation before release it, feel free to modify it and make it better. Now an auto installer should be better than a zipfile too.

For the future I'd like to integrate in the existing OF DB some other local aircrafts, update some older lods and replace some which are not necessary (A5 or Q5 or any others are not welcome in middle east theater LOL). Then if my work succeed I'll make an update.

Check MP.

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-17 03:51:28

Yes but what I specificly mean that you can do all the edits you seem necessary and then send the files to me, I'll then compile the installer and we'll release the ODS v0.7 with all the stuff in it.

Just to be clear; I do not want to see any "independent" ODS OF fixes released. We'll do it officially with the PMC installer.

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-17 11:43:24

No prob.

I have not made it available to public. Only some persons "beta test" it at the moment.

The skins for RV are also regrouped on a ZIP file but I didn't update my job for RV DB. However, the best should be to wait for the ITO2 release for RV and then apply those skins where they could be useful in a separate (copied) DB as I did.
Then tacediting the aircraft units at the proper squadrons and places should not be so much difficult.

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-17 23:28:23

Maybe you can ask Ranger822 if he would like to share those aircraft textures before ITO2 release?

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-18 00:48:50

Already asked and authorized from

RANGER822 (ITO2)
HAROLD (Virtual Twenthe)
SIMONTEK (on GF)
MURAD (on GF)

For their model and skins.

I asked for CCC and FF forum but no response.

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-18 06:03:55

Okay thats great, but I meant that they would give the textures beforehand to you, so that you dont have to wait for ITO2 release and then start to work on your OF fix

Oh... can we use the same skins then on basic RV version? (of course they dont work on AF, right?).

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-18 12:42:19

I have already exported lods and skins from FF3/ITO2. And skins are skins so if the original lod is the same, they could be used as well.

Nobody elese for giving some stuff as lods and skins for ODS ?

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-18 15:13:36

Well I havent asked around, I have the infamous OIF Robviper stuff but thats it for new items on our list.

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-19 12:06:29

Snake Man wrote:Well I havent asked around, I have the infamous OIF Robviper stuff but thats it for new items on our list.

Ok, that should be good to use with my stuff, no... ?

Except if this project is on working (the best should be to make a fusion between the 2) Any post or link about it ?

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2007-11-19 15:07:38

Fafa - there won't be any significant new models or skins for the Israeli portion. All the work that I have done POST Cobra-ITO has been around compatibility issues with RV and upgrading NON-Israeli Theater models and skins. So, it doesn't really apply to the ITO campaign material per se. So, there is no need to wait for RV-ITO2 to come out. Also, now that ITO2 is committed to RV there will be an ever larger divergence of material both in models and skins in the future ... as I am changing things out . . . and upgrading. Unfortunately, only the RV side will be directly usable and OF will likely not be able to take advantage of those upgrades as they occur.

Alternatively, if you have some interesting material for ODS, please let me know about it - I am always interested in collecting "stuff." You never know when something might be useful in another theater. Dr. Fred's latest version of LE allows us to convert models to DXM format easily now.

Good luck with your effort

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2007-11-19 15:20:18

for non-RV exe, i've some old LOD files. let me know what you want.. before i wiping them out of my HD.

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-19 15:33:51

ranger822 wrote:Dr. Fred's latest version of LE allows us to convert models to DXM format easily now.

Is that something recent, something we dont have available for download here?

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2007-11-19 17:09:56

SM, not sure what you have for LE nowadays. I think 6.2 (that is what I have called it) is my most recent one - - not exactly sure where I got it - - it might have been on the FF Beta Forum or Fred sent it directly per my request. Works nice at converting models and integrated with the LE UI.

I am at work so I cant check the FF Forum to see if it is in their downloads - - I am pretty sure anything in the regular FF Forum download is fair game. Items in the FF Beta are subject to release by the owner.

Best to send Fred a message. He might have something newer and might want to post that. The DXM conversion utility is really only useful if you are trying grab models and convert to DX format - unfortunately he doesn't have a tool that goes from DX to LOD ;-(

@CCC - If you have any LODs you think might be useful that I don't already have please feel free to package anything and everything - I will store it away for a possible "someday"

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-20 01:21:32

@CCC -> All the lods and skins you could give me, I am very interested.

@RANGER822 -> I'm interested in skins and models you are developing if they are not yet RV CONVERTED. For the Stuff I could give you at he moment, it consists only in skins you can find on my website. Send me a PM if You haven't got it.

A the moment I am on inserting skins and modify DB NAME AND ENTRIES, next I'll replace some older lods and skins. Lots of work so it will be only available in 3-4 weeks.

Now I'm trying myself on photoshop and try to make some skins too, these are preliminary work of a noob.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2007-11-20 05:15:34

Fafa wrote:@CCC -> All the lods and skins you could give me, I am very interested.

i prefer you list what you need first. some lods are not completely my work.

btw patrick site has some iranian tomcat vid recently.. dressed in air superiority blue scheme.

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-20 06:13:46

I edited the topic to suit more better the evolved discussion

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-20 11:39:27

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-20 12:17:22

ccc wrote:for non-RV exe, i've some old LOD files. let me know what you want.. before i wiping them out of my HD.

TURKEY
CN235M-100 (Cargo and Ambulance)
CN235EW (ELINT/SIGINT)
212 Özel Filo Dogan
(Hawk) Ce550
Ce650
UH-1H
Gulfstream IV
CN235M-100
UH-1H
CN235M-100
AS532AL/UL
T-41D

EGYPT
MiG-21UM
KT-107
Beech 1900C-1 (ELINT)
Mirage 5SDE
Mirage 5SDD
Mirage 5SDR
DHC-5D
Beech 200
Boeing 707
Falcon 20E
Falcon 20F
Gulfstream III
Gulfstream IV(SP)
G-400SA-342 (VIP)
Zlin 526
PZL-104
S-70A-21
Sea King Mk47,
C-130VC
EC-130H
An-74TK-200A
Grob 115EG
EMB312
DHC-5
Alpha Jet
L-39ZO
L-59E

ISRAEL
Bell 206
G-120A-1
Tzukit
AH-1E
S-70A
AS565MA
Beech 200
BeA36
RC-12D/K

BAHRAIN
T67M260
Hawk Mk.129
F-5F
B727-2M7
B747-SP21
G1159C-SP
G1159TT
Bell 430
BAE146-RJ85
B747-4P8 (o/o
AB212
Bo105C
Bell 412
Bell 412SP
Bell 427

IRAN
MiG-29UB
C-130E
C-130H
B707
B747
Falcon 20/20F
F27-400M/600
Falcon 50
L-1329
F-5F
PC-6
Beech F33C
P-3F
Beech F33C
Parastu
EMB312
PC-7
Mirage F-1EQ
Mirage F-1BQ
SH-3D

SYRIA
MBB-233 Flamingo
L-39ZA
MiG-21MF/UM
MiG-25PD/PU/RB
MiG-23BN/UB
SA342L
Yak-40

IRAQ
Comp Air 7SL
SB7L-360
SAMA CH2000

KUWAIT
L-100-30
Hawk T64
Tucano T.52
EC135T1

OMAN
Hawk 103
Hawk 203
Jaguar S/B

QATAR
Mirage 2000-5DDA
Mirage 2000-5EDA
Alpha Jet

SAUDI ARABIA
F-5B
AB212
Bell 412EP
Jetstream 31
CN-235M-10
BAe125-800A
BAe125-800B
A340-213
AS-61A-4
Lj35A
CeF172G
CeF172H
CeF172M
PC-9
F-5F
Hawk T.65/65A
S-70A-1

EAU
Mirage 2000EAD
Mirage 2000DAD
Mirage 2000-9
Mirage 2000RAD
F-16E
F-16F
Grob G115TA
Hawk T61
Hawk T63
Hawk T63A
Hawk T63C
CN-235M-100
Hawk Mk102
MB326KD (wfu)
MB326LD
Bell 214
Bell 212
Bell 205 (sold to RAFO)
SA342L
AB412

AND :
The last French Rafale M LOD before it was converted to RV.

i_hawk · Post by **i_hawk** » 2007-11-20 12:33:37

@Fafa

If you like there is a different skin for the F-16I... looks more similar to the other IAF F-16s...

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2007-11-20 13:37:37

@Fafa - the list is long but - do you plan to intergrate all of them into one databse? you'd better try adding few new items to the databse and prove you can make them working first!!

and most of all - the focus of ODS theater is fully working campaigns. always place this focus on first place!!

take 1991 ODS campaign for example - yes it works and ends as allied captured kuwait city but - i hope it can be refined fruther and get some troops catpure Barsa..

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-20 14:02:55

I-Hawk, could you send me this Skin ?

CCC, I've got working campaigns at the moment and I can't do anything else at the moment
When I have updated the DB I'll modify them to place the good planes at the proper place. I think it's the good way. If I work on campaigns before with the the bad DB I'll have to place all the aircrafts again and I've got a little time but not so much.
For the models, the goal is first to have max lods and skins before you erase them or convert them to RV. Afte it'll be too late.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2007-11-20 14:45:19

models available - some are half-done or unfinished.

TURKEY
CN235M-100 (by Orion)
AS532AL/UL

EGYPT
MiG-21UM
Mirage 5SDE( use mirage5BA or mirage 5F)
Mirage 5SDD
Mirage 5SDR
Sea King Mk47,
EMB312
Alpha Jet
L-39ZO ( by Miran, 3ds)

ISRAEL
Tzukit
AS565MA

BAHRAIN
Hawk Mk.129
F-5F (by Fred)
AB212
Bo105C
Bell 412
Bell 412SP
Bell 427

IRAN
MiG-29UB
B747
P-3F
SH-3D

SYRIA
MiG-21MF/UM
MiG-25PD/PU/RB
MiG-23BN/UB
SA342L

KUWAIT
Hawk T64

OMAN
Hawk 103
Hawk 203

SAUDI ARABIA
F-5B

EAU
SA342L

AND :
The last French Rafale M LOD before it was converted to RV.

Rafale M is not all my work.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2007-11-20 16:26:17

for ODS1991 OOB, we've a thread here..

viewtopic.php?t=19646&highlight=order+battle

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-20 21:25:29

Thanks for all the infos CCC...of course I'll remake the campaign based on this and other doc.

RingoSurf · Post by **RingoSurf** » 2007-11-21 09:55:40

Thanks everybody for your good job, I think ODS (middle east theater) it's a great theater for falcon4 ,but please if it is possible don't forget falcon4 allied force....
Bye

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-21 19:41:38

have the regret to definitively stop this project. My FTP will be soon formated. No explanation, just regrets and a bad taste.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2007-11-21 21:35:21

Fafa - please contact me regarding ODS and your site address - I need to do some downloading - would like to get your current work in progress. No promises but ODS has always held my interest.

ranger822@earthlink.net

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2007-11-21 23:04:53

Fafa wrote:have the regret to definitively stop this project. My FTP will be soon formated. No explanation, just regrets and a bad taste.

If Ranger can't get everything backed up then please let me know. I would hate to loose the only source of good Falcon backed up material. I can store stuff at my Filefront account and my mediafire account. Plus I know a guy who might be able to help out with storage as well.

Closter · Post by **Closter** » 2007-11-21 23:17:41

If there is danger of losing any interesting work, I could help in providing ftp space for that in f4spain. closter hat yahoo pot com

YouTube · Post by **Snake Man** » 2007-11-21 23:41:41

Fafa wrote:have the regret to definitively stop this project. My FTP will be soon formated. No explanation, just regrets and a bad taste.

Say what? What happened (will happen?)?

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2007-11-22 02:48:20

Fafa - - is the www.falcon4.net site going down? If so I need to back up some stuff for ITO - - I have my ITO-Cobra basic installer there. That is currently the only site -- I would like to have that installer kept somewhere just in case RV-ITO never makes it out - -that way folks have a way to get at all that material.

Fafa · Post by **Fafa** » 2007-11-22 18:35:05

The project goes on and my site remains opened.

I was very angry yesterday, some attitudes make me sick. I won't let credit to people who make personnal wars, personnal falcon version wars or keep recurrent or definitivaly work which could be optimised and used for the community. My goal is to share and use as the better as possible every work, so no offense... I don't want this community to be affected because of some individuals. So I won't stop now.

Couby · Post by **Couby** » 2007-11-22 20:13:16

ranger822 wrote:Fafa - - is the www.falcon4.net site going down? If so I need to back up some stuff for ITO - - I have my ITO-Cobra basic installer there. That is currently the only site -- I would like to have that installer kept somewhere just in case RV-ITO never makes it out - -that way folks have a way to get at all that material.

There's no link between falcon4.net and Fafa. Falcon4.net is mine and won't move. So don't worry for your files

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