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Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-05 05:55:00

I'm looking for the images for different terrain types and where they are located for: Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Israel, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Armenia, Azerbajan, Turkmenistan, Cyprus...

This is perfect image of what I'm looking for:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/atlas_mi ... q_land.jpg

Here is two example images, iraq/saudi:
http://isu2.cedare.org.eg/gis/images/irqmap1.jpg
http://isu2.cedare.org.eg/gis/images/suamap1.jpg

But those are too low res images as we can't make out the text :)

If you have ever wanted to help build theaters, this is one department... research. Any and all links/images/info is very welcome for terrain types or land use, what ever its called.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2002-04-05 08:36:00

Saudia Arabia- http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/atlas_mi ... a_land.jpg

Syria- http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/atlas_mi ... a_land.jpg

Turkey- http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/atlas_mi ... y_land.jpg

heres the rest, the forum wouldnt let me post more that 8 at a time.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-05 08:40:00

Hehe thanks a bunch!

I feel lame again for not discovering that myself, the images are on the same link as one of my own posted examples. Gee whiz again :)

Anyways that is awesome stuff, with little image manipulation, CATE rules and voila...

Thanks for the links!

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2002-04-05 08:49:00

np, its hard to find any for the asian countries. that site is hard to navigate.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-06 01:27:00

Thanks to Ender Wiggin I now have pretty solid Land Use table for the ODS terrain.

I've spent this night pretty much fitting these different land use images together on top of the ODS terrain bitmap.

Here is the result

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What do you guys think, how many different terrain types (tile-sets) that takes?

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2002-04-06 02:08:00

no idea, but if you need tilers, though probably not do to CATE, let me know.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-06 17:18:00

For terrain types, we got

- Woodland/Forest
- Meadows and pastures (sheep and cattle)
- Arable land
- Irrigated farming
- Rough grazing/nomadic herding
- Wasteland

Lot of different tiletypes to be made. Wonder how could I lure Zaggy to help us out...

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Zaggy » 2002-04-06 18:04:00

OK, so who wants to help create these tilesets???? Shant take much graphical skills, just a little patience and such once i get generic tiles done for the listed terrains...

Apprentice TileMeisters needed!!! Apply within!!!
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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Zaggy » 2002-04-07 05:14:00

Oh yeah, as anyone that has reference pics (ie, colour photo's, either from the air or from the ground) showing these types of coverage in iraq or any of the middle east, please post the pics, with a short description of what type of coverage and what country/area theyre from...
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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-07 05:58:00

Zaggy, news are posted all around F4 scene about the need for resource links.

Now lets see if we catch any fish...

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2002-04-07 07:54:00

Are you looking for QAP tiling?

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-07 09:05:00

quote:Originally posted by Ender Wiggin:
Are you looking for QAP tiling?
Hmm no.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2002-04-07 09:51:00

Oh ok, i wasnt sure what u were looking for, is it like what i got the other night, or is it satilite photo type stuff?

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-07 10:05:00

Basically this area is pretty much done, I asked help for land use/land cover maps and you delivered :)

The ODS land use bitmap for CATE is just about ready and now this issue has moved past the "subject" here, meaning that now we need new tiles and that post is on another forum area. Check the terrain resource links area.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Ender Wiggin » 2002-04-07 10:13:00

oh ok gotcha, well unforutantly, my demo of PSP has expired and after 29 more days it wont run anymore.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by T Bone » 2002-04-08 01:27:00

You can change the date on your system and the PSP demo will work again :)
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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-08 02:06:00

Another night worked (with my poor ps6 skills) with the ODS bitmap for CATE image and finally its finished. Ok there are some pixels that are with wrong colors, but damned I'm making Mozart fix those ;)

Anyways here is the image
Image

And this is the "legend"
Image

Now its CATE time

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Zaggy » 2002-04-08 02:59:00

Cool Cool Cool....

People, get me some DAMNED pics of this terrain, so i can do you up generic tiles for these coverage types...

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by ccc » 2002-04-08 04:18:00

Cool. Artist SnakeMan! :D

just to remind you, there's a thread at Frugal forum discussing hi-res cockpit and tiles, Paul said 512x512 tiles could run short of memory, and he'll try use 256x256 tile instead. be sure to check it.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-04-20 14:59:00

Image

Here are some basic terrain types we got right now - ready to go. All I need to do is to configure CATE conf file to use these.

So, where?

Where should we tile these areas in the earlier terrain types image I prepared?

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by 87th_striker » 2002-04-20 21:31:00

When I tiled, I always put green stuff along the wadis (dry rivers) The upper left would be good "farmland" around villages and cities, and some large rivers. Looks like water supply is good for that tile. Think needs to be more green somewhere in valleys in Iran and possibly other places. Generally speaking, where there is a lot of people , there is farmland or grasing ground near.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Death_119 » 2002-04-23 09:00:00

I saw the maps but its kind incomplete. a farm terrian isn't always a green terrian. for instence, the terrian wich the map showed over the golan heights was formed as farm/arable prodactive land, by that meaning-green i guess by you.

its actually a balck volcano soil over there. not so many forest areas (like you european farmilier with).
its just an example.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-08-14 18:09:00

Guys I'm working on this terrain type map shown above for ODS v0.4

If you have anykind of information about the region, its terrain, tiles, or just your falcon 4.0 user ideas about the image you see there, please let me know!

Thank you.

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Re: Terrain types of middle east

Post by Snake Man » 2002-08-16 10:47:00

Can someone get me some descriptions for these following terms

pastures / scattered farming (sheep and goats)
permanent crops
arable land (wheat, barley and horticulture)
irrigated farming
rough grazing / nomadic herding

What kind of terrains would those be?

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