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Red Dog

I'll let that one for you to decide.

my source says Doha is joint civil/military
http://www.worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=QA04668

Red Dog

Thanks, that will allow me to solve some irregularities in the CSV .. Like parssabad not being part of ther IRAN forces

Red Dog

I see 6, 5 and 2 referenced as owner in the CSV
airbases in Iran are not of one code only some are different owner

I need to know who is which number?

The question is to solve the ABU MUSA islan that needs to be UAE and not IRANI

Red Dog

they are just part of the stations.dat file Usually, when creating a teather,approach indexes start at 0 and gets implemented for each airbase to 45, the starts again at 92 and so on... Tower index is approach index + 46 I can keep the same value as ODS and adapt for new airbases in Iran or I can st...

Red Dog

Snake,

Are you requireing that the approach index (and thus the tower index) remains the same between the IRAN and ODS common airbases?

it's easier for me to start from scratch, but I could use the ones from ODS and simply implement for the IRAN specific airbases

Red Dog

Fine with me Snake. Rod, there must be an error somewhere I checked Al UDEID and it's reported to be a 12000 ft runway IRL? The only 15000ft runway in Qatar is Doha i added Al udeid to the airbase list, but I think it's redundant. It's very close to Doha whicg already is a large airbase. I could liv...

Red Dog

It doesn't do any difference for you. It's a hell of a difference for the guy who has to create the chart (me) :lol: When I can use the real charts to base my work on, it is really a plus. When I can't I have to create the procedure from scratch and it takes a lot longer and a lot more headaches. I'...

Red Dog

Rhaa, Crap. I hate leaving a work unfinished....

How much time do I have to send you that CSV for Nevada?

Red Dog

Well Marvin, It's always been a compromise between the reality and what F4 can offer. Since we have a very limited number of airbase type to choose from, my criteria has always been to take the closest runway orientation available. That is motivated by the fact that if one day I have to do approach ...

Red Dog

Me too ...
I take it it's time for me to work on airbases I guess.
let me finish Iran and this one will be next if that's ok with you Snake?

Red Dog

No Rod, the list is not complete yet, i have been busy for work and had to place Iran on a back burner. Hope to be on it ASAP. As for Al Udeid, I don't ming adding it (and in ODS as well then) but the argument of the longest rwy in the area is of no interest. All runway have the same 7000-8000ft run...

Red Dog

Thanks Snake, that tacedit map clears some issue So it might just be that abandonned kars and kars southeast are close to another and the point of Kars southeast blanked by the Abandonned KARS name. That's something that you could maybe check in the UI (I don't have Iran installed) That's indeed wha...

Red Dog

I found ALI AL SALEM AB in the CSV file I exported from the SAVE1.cam file from the Iran V0.2 release. Let me post up that file and you can examine it. Here it is: I show it from the csv file at X=400, Y=683 I just don't get it why it's not in the CSV list then. Anyway, I will add it manually in th...

Red Dog

you're right,
I added them from my original selection in the airbase list

Red Dog

I added some island airports in the straight of Ormuz. lavan Island Sirri Island and ABU Musa island The latter is interesting because it locks the straight of Ormuz (it's only 60 Nm North of UAE) The island is in dispute between Iran and UAE and Iran currently occupies it and even placed some SilkW...

Red Dog

Thanks Lod, Got the map. resolution is good enough. It's just impossible to get the airport names in azerbaijan for instance because the name are overlapping one another. I'll start with what i have Stand by for geographic intensive debates :) I already see that there is ALI AL SALEM AB in Kuwait on...

Red Dog

You guys are really doing all you can to help me, It's great to work for you guys

Red Dog

You still need this?

yes, such a chart would greatly help

Red Dog

found a name issue already
HEYDAR ALIYEV = BAKU BINA

Red Dog

I have some problems with the tacedit CSV file. 1. some entries are doubled, tripled. 2. There are some airbases I cannot find, although some are in ODS... ALI AL SALEM AB (Kuwait) KHASAB (OMAN) AL AIN INTL (UAE) BAM (IRAN) BANDAR ABBAS NAS (IRAN) DAYRESTAN (IRAN) JASK (IRAN) METAR KALATEH (IRAN) RA...

Red Dog

Indeed, I was confused because i used ODS as a reference and they are different
But you're right indeed, they're the same in Afghanistan and Europe

Update:
The northern countries airport selection is complete, I'll post the updated airbase spreadhseet ASAP

Red Dog

I am not sure I understand, Rod... here's the line in the CSV file Name, Type, Subtype, ID, Objective, X, Y, Z, ..... PARSSABAD, Airbase, 11_29 Airbase, 4, 1775, 499, 1813, 0,.... Thus Name= PARSSABAD Type= Airbase Subtype= 11_29 Airbase ID = 4 Objective = 1775 X=499 Y=1813 Z=0 I just need to know i...

Red Dog

Gravel ... Yek, that should be fun

Thanks T
I wonder how long it took you to dig that one 8)

Red Dog

The structure of the stations.dat is as follows:

Objective ID2, Tacan channel, Tacan band, Approach Index, Tacan range, emitter type, ILS freq

that structure is different for OF

Red Dog

Just above of Azerbaijan, on the Caspian seaside (North) that's the small part of Russia. So no airbase there, then. Same for Kazakhstan (North of Turkmenistan) No airbases either) Georgia is another story, we have airbases there... Reminds me my map for Lomac in Georgia :D It's funny how the flight...

Red Dog

Here's the catch, I am working on the airbases up north and realized there is a very small part of russia implemented. The only airbase/airstrip really in there is AKHTY. (I am not even sure that one is supposed to be there on the PDF map) but it seems it's a very small airstrip with no published in...

Red Dog

f course we should fix this in next ODS release, so please forward me the information needed for the change. Good catch Snake, I will forward the info ASAP, as soon as I got the list finalized and once I am sure there won't be any change. There will be also some changes in Afghanistan as I added so...

Red Dog

Wait, till the spreadsheet is complete, should be soon now.

Red Dog

Rod, I noticed your list in your post above doesn't appear to address airstrips/Highway strips but I believe you spreadsheet does. I try to minimize the airstrips because honestly they aren't really necessary. But the spreadsheet has the airstrips (as the list above - I just didn't mentionned them) ...

Red Dog

All right, I'm filling the gaps in Iran; Iran should now be almost complete as far as airbase selection is concerned basically, the airbases in Iran already in ODS and afghanistan remain unchanged. Here are the added airbases covering the gaps in the middle BANDAR ABBAS INTL BANDAR ABBAS NAS KALALEH...

Red Dog

No idea how I did this - but I started this file some 6 or 7 years ago ... :) Best guess is that it's related somehow to the tab name. I just created a new tab for Iran and got the ODS blue text to disappears but no new one for iran got in. So I guess it's something not supported anymore by the mode...

Red Dog

Rod,

I have no idea what you're talking about ?
Have a pix?
probably a difference of excell version - But I don't have that large ODS text running vertically

Spreadsheet update, UAE and OMAN are completed

Red Dog

Since you insist, there's a line you can change on the EW airstrip chart:
Add R601 to the list of applicable airfield

Red Dog

Yep Snake, that RED team using BLUE hardware was the idea :) I'll have a look at the CSV you sent I feel Nevada has a great potential if it's made as a training area to meet challenging opfor with modern hardware. I'm sure we can make it pretty interesting with Restricted and prohibited zones. Hey T...

Red Dog

Super Rod, Got the file, It's splendid
Exactly what we need for this discussion

Red Dog

I always have dreamed of a Nellis training range with F4 where we could do blue on blue training scenarios I never installed nevada because I thought it never was quite finalized in a way allowing to enjoy it correctly (might be wrong here) Anyway, I'm willing to work on the AB aspect if required. I...

Red Dog

Sherlock, How about we take that list I just posted and work country by country until we have all the countries missing airbases added. basically, we would just need to work on: Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaidjan, Georgia (above Armenia), Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan (avobe turkmenistan), Iran, UAE and OMAN A...

Red Dog

Here's a link to the updated airbase_list file
Open the xls, check the tabs and go to the last one called IRAN

It's the same list as above but with already all the info we need:
http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/Airbase_list.zip

Red Dog

lol, I love it too :) It's interesting to note how I had to angle the theater towards Iran to make the borders approx the same. probably that damn F4 projection problem :( Here's a list of the merged airbases from ODS and afghanistan that will go into IRAN They are set by country and all we have lef...

Red Dog

Rod, Thanks for the Iran map with border, that's perfect. The kneemaps of ODS and afghanistan are great to check which airbases we need and which terrain gap we have. Here's a quick superposition of the ODS and afghan kneempas on the Iran images you posted. http://www.candyparty.com/ST/SP/Iran/iran_...

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can anyone talk to me about owner

Stations.dat file for Iran

Some interesting ideas

Missing airbase from the tacedit CSV

Do we need one airbase in Russia?

So what's the status?