Moving Map - large images

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-04-13 15:01:00

I was asked to post these, hope we will discover what these are all about

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-13 15:11:00

Thanks for posting the images!
What do you think of it?
It still is on early stages but it's working. You must see the map moving while you are flying!! It's great!
Later this evening I'll try to use your values and see if I come up with something usefull. My main goal for now is to get the right maps with the exact measurements, and also with a good resolution. As you can see the one I have as a very good resolution (4mb bmp).Tell me what you think of it.
Pedro

colonel tomb · Post by **colonel tomb** » 2001-04-13 16:23:00

AWESOME!
Reminds me of the AWACS moving map from Jane's FIGHTER ANTHOLOGY days.
Zooming would be very cool, too.

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-13 16:47:00

Looks good... is it a stand alone program
ifso can I run it on a second pc to have it standby at any time

or....

I'm pretty curious please tell us

Iceland coordinates:

Coordinates real values:
SW=[-27.8326 60.4781],
SE=[-9.1654 60.4781],
NE=[-5.2474 69.6920],
NW=[-31.7506 69.6920]

If you need a beta tester just let me know
if you want to post any more pictures be free to upload them to F4Iceland egroup
and post them from there
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/F4Iceland
become a member and you can upload any pics you want..use the korea folder/pedro direcory

Good Luck on your project

whatever it actually is or will become

Widowmaker

[This message has been edited by Widowmaker (edited April 13, 2001).]

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-13 17:07:00

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Widowmaker:
Looks good... is it a stand alone program
ifso can I run it on a second pc to have it standby at any time

Yes it's stand alone and you can run it on a second PC, just wait for Erwin's F4Data program to send the variables over the network. Meanwhile if you 2 video cards you can puit it on a second monitor.
Thanks for the offer. As soon as I progress more I'll post some pics.
As for beta testing, let me just solve the coordinates and I'll send it a copy for you to test it.
Pedro

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-04-13 19:24:00

Ok let me get this straight: that program of yours "Moving Map" will take some feedback from Falcon 4.0 sim and move on its own screen the map according where you are flying?

That sounds pretty goddamn good, if you have second PC or somesort of dual monitor thing (not many people have that I believe).

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-13 19:46:00

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snake_Man:
Ok let me get this straight: that program of yours "Moving Map" will take some feedback from Falcon 4.0 sim and move on its own screen the map according where you are flying?

Yes!

. Falcon provide us with info that yow can find in the zip I've sent to you (flightData.h) in a shared memmory location. So, using a modified version of debug.zip we can extract all the variables and use them.
I't important that the map used must be exactly the same used in TE or Campaing or with the same size.
The more features it as, the better.
I've notice that all the maps that are in Vietnam theater are all low resolution, can't you make a higher resolution one?
Pedro

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-04-14 02:07:00

quote:Originally posted by Pedro Ferreira:
The more features it as, the better.
I've notice that all the maps that are in Vietnam theater are all low resolution, can't you make a higher resolution one?
Pedro

Well I can get you a 2048x2048 image of the vietnam map, what ever features you want in it. Just let me know what you need.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-14 05:36:00

WOW! f4 mod-makers always suprise us everyday

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-14 10:08:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake_Man:
Well I can get you a 2048x2048 image of the vietnam map, what ever features you want in it. Just let me know what you need.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Thanks, that would be great!
Please include all the features (rivers, airports, roads, etc), don't include the names of the places.
Thanks,
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-14 10:11:00

Want one from Iceland too..

?

Widmak

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-14 10:25:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:
Want one from Iceland too..?

Widmak

You bet!!
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-14 15:54:00

Here a link to the map...2048/2048 4mb

zipped

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/F4Iceland ... andmap.zip

Really looking forward to your work

Good Luck

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-14 16:19:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:
Here a link to the map...2048/2048 4mb

zipped

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/F4Iceland ... reation/Ic elandmap.zip

Really looking forward to your work

Good Luck

Widowmaker

Thanks.
Here a link to the program so that you can betatesting. Only works for Korea, for now...
Tomorrow I'll start looking into Iceland, I've to meet my girlfriend now and only will be back tomorrow.
Stay tuned.

Pedro

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/F4Iceland ... o/F4MM.zip

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-14 16:24:00

thanx

got it will test it right away...great

Have a good time...

Widmak

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-14 16:40:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:
thanx

got it will test it right away...great

Have a good time...

Widmak

Hi, I'm not out yet...
Can you answer one question?
what are the X,Y MapExtent of Iceland?
Is it 1024?
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-14 16:44:00

X MapExtent= 1024
Y MapExtent= 1024
X Sections = 64
Y Sections = 64
X Tiles = 16
Y Tiles = 16

here you are ..

widmak

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-14 16:48:00

Thanks, Bye
Pedro

PS: After testing it please post something. Ok?

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-14 18:10:00

hey pedro

the zip seams to be corrupted the *.bmp in the data dir dir doesn't seem to be willing to unpack bad CRC

got the program to run however on a TV output bmp 2048 256 yet it didn't showed the map only a black map with the right upper part white

still this will only be due to bad zip
hope..

(btw on my Voodoo3 2000 machine it killed itself on some *.dll ...I'll give more detail later)

see ya

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-15 09:56:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:
hey pedro

the zip seams to be corrupted the *.bmp in the data dir dir doesn't seem to be willing to unpack bad CRC

got the program to run however on a TV output bmp 2048 256 yet it didn't showed the map only a black map with the right upper part white

still this will only be due to bad zip
hope..

(btw on my Voodoo3 2000 machine it killed itself on some *.dll ...I'll give more detail later)

see ya

Widowmaker

Yes, the upload went wrong.
I'll try to upload again.
In order to use it you must start Falcon4 first and then F4MM. It goes to the down left corner of the map (X=0,Y=0). Once you start a mission, falcon4 starts to feed the variables.
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-15 10:32:00

rgr

will test it right now..

Widak

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-15 11:06:00

Hi Widowmaker,
I need the Iceland theater and instructions on how to install it in order to test it.
Pedro

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-15 16:25:00

Did you receive my last email?
Pedro

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-15 16:28:00

If the program still doesn't works, reduce the bitmap resolution to 1024x1024 and see if it works.
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-15 17:52:00

Yep recieved your mail..

downloading it now from my exarnal email account.
will keep you posted...

thanx

Widowmaker

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-15 18:46:00

Got it to work it is great

yet I had to bring down the rersolution to 1024
wich is quite a loss in resolution
and I suffer quite a loss in framerates..yet I only got a 500mhz amd with 128 mb

wow really great and endless posibilities

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-16 16:32:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:
Got it to work it is great

yet I had to bring down the rersolution to 1024
wich is quite a loss in resolution
and I suffer quite a loss in framerates..yet I only got a 500mhz amd with 128 mb

wow really great and endless posibilities

Widowmaker

I'm glad that it worked!!!

Can you upload it?
Did you test the ADI?
Now to improve it, any sugestions? It would be great if we could add waypoints to it...
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-16 18:06:00

Well I will upload the version you send me Sunday

maybey you want to extend the readme a bit

suggestions:

-a tab in wich you can switch theater intead of running a second exe

-the map turns now down under the f 16 cross onthe map..maybey the cross could be replaced with a fi6 painting and it would change heading instead of the map...and the map just shifting it..

- waypoints would be cool indeed
-also the section of other airplanes in the same te would be cool..dunno if this is possible

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-16 18:12:00

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Widowmaker:
Well I will upload the version you send me Sunday

maybey you want to extend the readme a bit

suggestions:

-a tab in wich you can switch theater intead of running a second exe

"-the map turns now down under the f 16 cross onthe map..maybey the cross could be replaced with a fi6 painting"

I'll see if I can do that.

" and it would change heading instead of the map...and the map just shifting it.."

Then it wouldn't be a moving map would it? It certainly be good to FPS but I think that we loose some realism with it? don't you think?

"-also the section of other airplanes in the same te would be cool..dunno if this is possible"

You mean having planes like mission planning?

Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-16 18:21:00

Yep like in warroom

Might be nice..

btw will test the ADI again soon...first try reluted in a crash

Widmak

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-16 18:29:00

"Yep like in warroom

Might be nice.."

It's not possible right now

.
Falcon doesn't feed us with info about other flights.
That would be nice.

What kind of crash did you get with ADI?
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-16 20:43:00

Hmm to bad ...can you give a list if data that you can recieve??

I will upload the good zip of F4mm tomorrow
I will also add some 1024 bmp's with it and extend a bit in the readme file..
If ok by you

Well the ADI..hmm can remebre exactly...does it need the same procedure as F4MM fisrt open falcon ..open ADI ...and pic a flight

Widowmaker

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-17 00:16:00

Pedro wrote:
>>>Then it wouldn't be a moving map would it? It certainly be good to FPS but I think that we loose some realism with it? don't you think?<<

The map would still move up/down..left/right
even more when zoomed in
yet it will not turnaround when changing heading..this would be done by the aircrafts symbol.

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-17 17:35:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:
Pedro wrote:
>>>Then it wouldn't be a moving map would it? It certainly be good to FPS but I think that we loose some realism with it? don't you think?<<

The map would still move up/down..left/right
even more when zoomed in
yet it will not turnaround when changing heading..this would be done by the aircrafts symbol.

Widowmaker

Roger that!
It's easy to do

.
Yes, you can add a real readme .
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-17 19:16:00

Hi Pedro

...sure will make it ASAP...got stalled over the release of 1.09

I lost my mind on how to aproach the install of it in order to keep all my setups alive(multi install again) so forgot to do it this morning..
(sorry)

I will post a link ASAP

and great would be cool if you could make the map not rotating yet the (cross) aircraft cursor

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-17 22:29:00

"...sure will make it ASAP...got stalled over the release of 1.09

"

Me too!

So today I didn't do anything with programming, that engine startup is great!
Tomorrow I'll try not to fly and change the map to nonrotating and see if I can add a f-16 icon. BTW do you have a image that we could use?
Pedro

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-17 22:54:00

Hi Widowmaker, the zip file still gives me some problems. I've downloaded it and still give a header error and don't extract.
Can you check out and see if you can download it and extract it?
Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-18 11:02:00

Ok will do this this evening..

see ya and good luch
will try and find a F16 icon for you
does it need to be in a specific format???

You could screencapture the Falcon UI and use the mouse pointer for it...just an idea

Widowmaker

Pedro Ferreira · Post by **Pedro Ferreira** » 2001-04-18 15:21:00

"see ya and good luch
will try and find a F16 icon for you
does it need to be in a specific format???"

No.

"You could screencapture the Falcon UI and use the mouse pointer for it...just an idea"

It never crossed my mind!
I'll try that.

Pedro

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-18 17:43:00

Ok I uploaded the current version
I have add a 1024 version off the map
and I wrote a readme

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/F4Iceland ... o/F4MM.zip

Widowmaker

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